Any other questions?              Is there anyone else to speak on behalf of the applicant and Mr. Nichols if he had anything to add that is new?  Do you swear the testimony you are about to give is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help you God? 

Mitchel Hazouri:                    Yes I do. 

Chairman McBennett:          State your name and address. 

Mitchel Hazouri:                    I own Mitch’s Tavern in Raleigh and I have a home at 3806 Alamance Drive and I have known the Padgetts 40 years, very close to the time I came to Raleigh and I want to say that Bett is wonderful musician and judging from the people I know that support her they are terrific people and I like to cut to the quick, this is not about Bible study or cub scout, it’s about a lot of being going and listening to entertainers who have paid and may be paying money, consuming alcohol and collectively those activities together are the most heavily regulated by local government and taken very seriously and I don’t really think that this, well before I get to that, ah…we are looking at the State Alcohol Law Enforcement has an interest in these types of activities, Wake County Alcohol Control Board, Wake County Health Department, Building Department, fire inspectors, these are people I have to deal with and I deal with more of them ah restaurant facilities have to be up to code and in looking at an activity that for what I gather has done very admirably at the Padgetts and they have a lot of supporters, a lot of wonderful musicians but what this is about is opening up the gate to sanction other house concerts and what happened nationally cities are allowed to regulate these activities... 

Chairman McBennett:          Let me clarify one thing, I ask if anyone speaking in favor of the application, are you opposed? 

Mitchel Hazouri:                   No, No, No, I don’t, I don’t, ah I would like if the Padgetts eventually are able to carry out these concerts I think that we ought to let the regulatory agencies and let the State legislature deal with them.  I don’t think this Board ought to open up this flood gate for these types of things because you have to ask yourself why cities are allowed to regulate these types of behavior because associated with these type of behavior a lot of drug use, over consumption of alcohol, consumption by under aged people and even though the Padgetts again probably run a very admirable place and run admirable concerts and I know of people that go there and they enjoy, the musicians, the music is wonderful.  I am a professional in this kind of business and ah. . I’m just here speaking as a professional to tell you that I can’t, if I want to have a concert in my place this weekend, I can’t have one because I’m not allowed to have live entertainment.  The City thinks that it is such that activities associated with them are so bad that ah. . . in my neighborhood if I have them I’m going to generate all kinds of other associated activities that are bad for the neighborhood.  So, while you might want to go ahead and grant the Padgetts this request and I don’t really think that you going to be able to that, and if you say okay you can go ahead and do that, someone may complain to ALE or complain to the Internal Revenue Service, there are issues of liability and things like that, may be their homeowners insurance might say “hey they are carrying out concerts here, can we do this”, but that’s where we not for you to decide but I don’t think you can actually sanction that they can do these things, I’m saying these, they may be outside of the law in general, not just on zoning or on other issues but I don’t really know, I have never attended one, I know a lot of people do go there.  But what I am saying is that this is not Bible study I think it’s just a generous to talk about playing bridge and people won’t be allowed to do that.  This is...people coming, frequently strangers, they go there, they pay or maybe they don’t pay and they attend these meetings, are their restrooms facilities adequate or is the building safe, maybe yes, maybe no, I have to make sure that mine are and what I’m saying here essentially is that I don’t think you ought to go there I think you should unanimously reject this request but the regulatory agencies, the Legislature and the City agencies deal with these things, house concerts, they are not the only ones doing them, they are becoming a problem here. 

Chairman McBennett:          We will mark you down as in opposition then. 

Mitchel Hazouri:                    Excuse me? 

Chairman McBennett:          We will mark you down as being opposed? 

Mitchel Hazouri:                    Yes, and ah I appreciate your time.  Thank you.